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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2017 18:38:00 GMT
Here is an audio/video presentation of a short cue showing key switching on brass samples. this is created and recorded using Cubase Pro and Native Instruments Kontakt Sampler. youtu.be/qak5vSmneO0
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Post by Dave Dexter on Sept 25, 2017 19:28:25 GMT
Nice stuff, and kudos for getting crotales into jazz.
My suggestion would be to make it completely clear what keyswitches are and where they're placed, which I was confused by before I'd tried it for myself.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2017 19:57:25 GMT
Ah well of course, key switching articulations. Different libraries, different key switches but I trust you mean we should discuss the concept and............the annoyance of the note being keyed showing up on the score Cinematic Strings have an interesting way of keeping the switching of the keyboard by using regions within the range of 0 to 127 in cc58 for such articulation changing.
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Post by Dave Dexter on Sept 25, 2017 20:12:48 GMT
Yes, the pure mechanics of how it works. Pretty much like a virtual roll of punch card that switches voice. I'll let you take it away The annoyance of them turning up in score is real, I have to delete them when moving from mockup to notation, though I realised I can exclude them from display by setting the staff's range above or below them. Can you explain the cc58 thing further? I'm not good with midi channels. Do you have the same issues with me where it's wise to deploy KS notes a little earlier? I find that if a staccato passage starts at b5, I have to place the KS a little earlier than dead on the barline, especially in large projects, as it doesn't immediately catch up. To say nothing of forgetting to reset the KS, or the VST remembering which articulation is set and not resetting for eight bars of beautiful legato which it now plays as whole tone trills because you forgot what you were doing... Ah well of course, key switching articulations. Different libraries, different key switches but I trust you mean we should discuss the concept and............the annoyance of the note being keyed showing up on the score Cinematic Strings have an interesting way of keeping the switching of the keyboard by using regions within the range of 0 to 127 in cc58 for such articulation changing.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2017 21:02:51 GMT
Perhaps a video would be in order and yes the key switching would always be ahead of the note/s to be triggered. Cubase has the ability to create expression maps for changing articulation but I tend not to use that method. The fact is, we've all got to do the horses for courses thing by trying the various methods and see what suits or............ Blame the tools for not being responsive to our needs.
So, where to start? Just how basic do we need to get in building a picture of the process.? The trouble is, my beginners mistakes were made many years ago in a time of dialup internet connection with no google or YouTube. I would have thought in today's world getting a tutorial on most things is child's play.
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Post by Mike Hewer on Sept 26, 2017 8:07:23 GMT
To say nothing of forgetting to reset the KS, or the VST remembering which articulation is set and not resetting for eight bars of beautiful legato which it now plays as whole tone trills because you forgot what you were doing...
Logics' chase function has been terrible for years I think, or at least i have never got it to work as I would like. There are some good options in scripting software available that overcome the problem. I tend to record in my artic changes every bar in a case where one artic is needed for any length of time. These days I use an iPad and touchosc over bluetooth to input all data into Logic and doing passes in real time is quick and easy. Touch osc can be configured for any set of samples and I highly recommend it if you have a tablet lying around. If you use Spitfire sounds, they use a protocol called uacc keyswitching, which basically utilises msb/lsb data from cc 32 (I think) to do the artic changes, hence no score corruption. I do VSL keyswitching too via iPad using their own app which is brilliant. Their score corruption looks like something from a Boulez score and so I normally have 2 tracks for each instrument in the arrange window, one for dots and the 2nd for performance data. some scripting packages....
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