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Post by Dave Dexter on Oct 17, 2017 12:19:51 GMT
Hey, for anyone familiar with Logic I have a question - can you use other tracks than the instrument track for keyswitches? Say if I use a horn keyswitch sample, can I put the KS notes somewhere else - I guess like bussing - so they don't clutter the track?
Main reason being, creating a score in Logic means you have to remove the KS notes otherwise they appear in their messy glory. Changing the range of instruments to not show anything in the KS range then means they're no longer recognised, and same with muting them to hide from score view.
The goal would is to work on a score live - at the moment I have to export the mockup and then import as a sync'd audio track that plays along with the muted midi. Moving KS for all my woodwind and brass would be a big help in that regard.
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Post by BootHamilton on Oct 17, 2017 14:02:16 GMT
Dave - I can in REAPER - so I suspect it's do-able in Logic. I've done it as a tryout of sorts - can't remember exactly what's involved. I'll try and re-create so I can give you some details of setup - in case it's easily transferable to your setup. It wasn't very tricky.
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Post by Mike Hewer on Oct 17, 2017 14:10:02 GMT
All I do Dave is have 2 tracks of the same midi channel in the arrange window - one for notes only, the other for all CC, keyswitch work and general manipulation. Mind you I do not use logics' score functionality to print out, but presumably you can edit out individual track from the score...Can you?
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Post by BootHamilton on Oct 17, 2017 14:20:37 GMT
I just tried it again. The basic thing I just did was record a VSTi on Trk 1. Then I set up Trk 2 to record, but w/ no instrument on it. Create a "send" from Trk 2 to Trk 1. Recorded some MIDI-only on Trk 2. When I played it back, the VSTi on Trk 1 was responding to the MIDI info on both Tks 1 AND 2. Fairly easy-peezy. I'll bet you can do a similar thing on your setup.
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Post by Dave Dexter on Oct 17, 2017 14:56:39 GMT
All I do Dave is have 2 tracks of the same midi channel in the arrange window - one for notes only, the other for all CC, keyswitch work and general manipulation. Mind you I do not use logics' score functionality to print out, but presumably you can edit out individual track from the score...Can you? Selective regions for scoring is indeed fine. Great, as Boot said it seems a simple thing in principle, but how do I actually have two tracks of the same midi channel? I'm guessing that's one per KS instrument, otherwise four horns doing different things would have major ks clashes combined on a single track.
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Post by Mike Hewer on Oct 17, 2017 15:06:22 GMT
Oh I see, do you mean using just one patch and doing (say) 4 parts with it? Each with different artics
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Post by Dave Dexter on Oct 17, 2017 15:13:07 GMT
No, although if possible that'd be useful - I just need a way to load all the KS bumph to another track that can be hidden or excluded from scoring. The four horns thing was because I assume you'd still need one KS track per instrument? so four horns would need four midi tracks.
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Post by BootHamilton on Oct 17, 2017 15:28:53 GMT
My tracks are totally channel-assignable by right clicking on the record button, then simply choosing the desired channel.
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Post by Mike Hewer on Oct 18, 2017 7:52:02 GMT
Dave,
I'm still a bit confused. If you want 2 (or more!) of the same midi track in the arrange page that is easy and is a good way to keep control and KS programming together and also separate from just the notes. I record the notes on one track, swap over to the duplicate and then record performance data on there. As you have said you can selectively show what regions/tracks appear in the score, then all you need to do is mute or hide the second track containing the cc/ks data and you'll be left with just the notes...or am I still missing something? I suspect I am...
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Post by Dave Dexter on Oct 18, 2017 8:18:04 GMT
You're not confused, you're just overassuming my competence. I miss elementary Logic functions for breakfast. I don't know how to have two tracks on the same track, as it were. Unless . . . surely it's not this simple? Multiple overlapping midi regions on one track? No wait, I could delete that but it's useful for others making my mistakes. It's this?: - the "New with same channel strip/instrument"? Even if that's not it, it seems to be working.
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Post by Mike Hewer on Oct 18, 2017 8:40:36 GMT
There you go. On X there is a command for new track with same channel which does not duplicate and load in the same instrument again. A key command to try might be control/shift/ return, although that could just be a LPX thang.
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Post by Dave Dexter on Oct 18, 2017 14:03:46 GMT
Golden. It's lpx only but this could help me out a lot in scoring. I also only discovered today the command to copy regions without having to ctrl-c/ctrl-v, by alt-clicking and dragging. Turns out it was the same command I used to copy plugins across the mixer. Why did I never test this on midi? So many mysteries.
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