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Post by driscollmusick on Nov 22, 2019 1:03:52 GMT
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Post by gx on Nov 22, 2019 6:32:29 GMT
It sounds really great, John! I especially appreciated the orchestral version . (though I know you wanted to demo the brass). I'm assuming you are using the 'legit' score. But if you added stuff, it certainly played right in. Are you manually playing all the parts, or is it tweaking with a notational program? (I know, probably a dumb question - but I seem to remember your mentioning about a score being involved in rendering the sound). Really fantastic!
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Post by driscollmusick on Nov 22, 2019 11:43:53 GMT
Thanks, G!
This is my standard Finale-Cubase hybrid template, so I entered all the notes into Finale directly from the printed score—no playing in... the only real tweaking was trying to figure out the best way to articulate each line (takes me about a half-hour to do a page of the score)
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Post by Bob Porter on Nov 28, 2019 16:45:28 GMT
John, It might be an interesting exorcise for us if you posted the brass score.
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Post by driscollmusick on Nov 28, 2019 18:29:17 GMT
John, It might be an interesting exorcise for us if you posted the brass score. Happy Thanksgiving, Bob! You mean Williams' score?
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Post by Bob Porter on Dec 1, 2019 0:41:45 GMT
Sure, just that little section. To play with.
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Post by driscollmusick on Dec 1, 2019 17:27:40 GMT
Here's the opening brass
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Post by driscollmusick on Dec 5, 2019 20:27:36 GMT
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Post by gx on Dec 6, 2019 16:25:58 GMT
Wonderfully convincing, John! (also, your ability to create this sound - with only a half hour per page needed, must fly in the face of the standard (more tedious) aesthetic approach, and I can imagine some head scratching).
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Post by driscollmusick on Dec 6, 2019 16:36:40 GMT
Thanks, G. You are much kinder than the folks on YouTube who tore it to shreds! I think I need to build in some more imprecision (working on that today)
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Post by gx on Dec 6, 2019 17:14:42 GMT
ah, the human (imprecise) factor. Yes. Perhaps, after you tweeK a bit more, you'll be able to convince the Dr. Frankensteins on YT.
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Post by Dave Dexter on Dec 18, 2019 23:19:00 GMT
It sounds good. The trumpets sound a little too legato, but that's my prior awareness of the music. It sounds like all samples need to be at a higher virtual dynamic for that more spitty separated line. Supported by the rest of the virtual orchestra, it all sits pretty well. If you don't mind me linking to something of mine... soundcloud.com/davedextermusic/a-hare-to-the-left-wave-2-themeThis soundtrack is probably the most realistic I ever got my samples sounding as I was being paid, not that it's ultra realistic, but I think the brass comes through well. I really only used two articulations, staccato and detaché, and made sure the staccato dynamics matched so everything blended well. As it's generally a loud score, the modulation and expression (your samples may work differently) is up pretty high for that aggressive forte bite, to simulate how hard the instruments would be playing if it was happening live. That said, I feel it's easier to make samples work at forte than piano, and this soundtrack was forte to the max.
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Post by driscollmusick on Feb 6, 2020 2:30:30 GMT
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Post by gx on Feb 7, 2020 16:35:36 GMT
Wow! It's hard to believe that such realism is possible initially generated from NS. You have mentioned it takes about a half hour per page of score. Surely, your method is much quicker than those who don't use NS, and yet your results are amazing, imho.
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Post by driscollmusick on Feb 19, 2020 19:53:00 GMT
Well, the half-hour per page was only entering the notes. The tweaking so it sounds decent takes a lot longer. Plus the learning curve, although hopefully that is lessened over time...
I'm also now bouncing to audio and doing separate mixing/mastering sessions in the DAW. Two steps forward, one step back...
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