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Post by mcanales on Oct 13, 2017 21:59:31 GMT
Hi all....
I am pretty fluent at Sibelius and want to stick with it. I write long hand at the computer because I was trained to write full scores in ink prior to switching to computer.
I would however be very interested in investing in top notch orchestral software and I am wondering where to go for that. I certainly don't mind paying a tech to help me tweak my computer set up as well as paying for the best sounds.
I'm willing to sink 5-10 K into it because, believe me, a live orchestra that can play my works to my satisfaction is going to cost me double that for just one performance of a work.
I could really use some advice with this.
Thanks.
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Post by Tim Marko on Oct 16, 2017 20:32:13 GMT
Michael, A number of vsti's can be used with Sibelius. Take a look at this sight: www.soundsetproject.com/He's done a lot of the programming already for the various libraries. Still need to do additional work, but it's a great start.
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Post by Dave Dexter on Oct 16, 2017 21:03:14 GMT
Are you talking about orchestral samples independent of notation (you could easily export your scores from sibelius into a DAW and work on them that way), or samples integrated into Sibelius? The latter will not get you the now very realistic results that working with samples in a DAW can get you, but it is more convenient. If you want the closest you can get to a live orchestra without hiring one, samples in a DAW are the thing. We're split into notation users, DAW users and both here so we'll all have our own suggestions on the best way to go
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Post by Mike Hewer on Oct 18, 2017 12:25:20 GMT
hi Mike,
We have a lot in common although I still use a pencil, ms and rubber and when ready, a DAW because as Dave says, it is the best way to achieve realism if that is your aim. Of course there is more work to do, but if the recording means something to you (and I suspect it does) then I'd consider going that way. Having said that, the learning curve is tough but once you get the basics, the samples listed below come with ambience built in which makes mixing a little easier, although that part of production needs learning too, especially if you mix different companies' samples. I have been in arguments for disparaging Sibelius playback before now, so I should say good results can be achieved with that set-up, but a DAW can give you the extra control needed to make a mock-up sound even more convincing and most importantly - musical. The high end samples have many tweakable parameters (as well as the best sound) which cannot be accessed at present by notation software.It is these parameters that help you achieve a more heightened realism. If you want to actually hear these samples in use, you can go to my website and listen to the Adagio for strings or the Theme and Variations. (they use Spitfire and VSL) - try and listen on a good system if you can in order to get the full depth of sound. The best on the market at present then are Spitfire Audio, VSL, Orchestral Tools, Chris Hein, Samplemodelling, 8Dio. There are a few others too, but that is a good place to start.
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Post by Bob Porter on Oct 18, 2017 20:55:20 GMT
EGAD!! Pencil and paper? How un-green Sure, I also learned to compose on paper. I also learned how to read with Dick and Jane books. Wait, I still read those. Um..my first bike was a trike. No, still got one of those. Yeah well, I first learned to talk using simple sentences. Uh...still do. Point is, I was never so happy as the day I got software to write notation with. Because I can't make heads or tails out of what I put down on paper. Now I can't make heads or tails out of what come out of the software. So I've really come a long way. Michael, If playback is your concern, write in notation (a bonus, as you already know how to do that). Sink your money into a DAW, and libraries, with which to get that playback. On the plus side, you'll already have a score. Mike and I did have a spirited discussion about notation playback. I don't recall that I ever claimed it was anywhere near as good as a DAW. On the other hand, there are many very fine libraries available that work with Sibelius. You can easily drop $500 or much more for them. The question might be, why would you do that for notation software. And as a last resort(right where I live), there are many things you can do within Sib 7 and up, that improve playback greatly.
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