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Post by Tim Marko on Aug 28, 2017 18:47:52 GMT
Can this board also be expanded to include notation programs? (or maybe a separate board?).
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Post by fuguestate on Aug 28, 2017 19:02:31 GMT
Good idea! I think it wouldn't be amiss to have a section of this board dedicated to notation software of various kinds. Unlike the old forum, the newer software this runs on ought to be able to handle that easily.
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Post by Mike Hewer on Aug 28, 2017 19:38:41 GMT
I just got staffpad the other day. It is absolutely amazing to just write onto a touchscreen as you would manuscript. A great tool for jotting down ideas and for anything from single instruments to full scores.
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Post by Tim Marko on Aug 28, 2017 19:44:31 GMT
I just got staffpad the other day. It is absolutely amazing to just write onto a touchscreen as you would manuscript. A great tool for jotting down ideas and for anything from single instruments to full scores. I purchased the "Surface" and the pen just for this program about six or seven months ago. It takes some time to learn the handwriting, but I agree. Manuscript paper in a tablet that you can actually hear if needed. Have you seen the program run on the big "Surface" with the little wheelie thing? Very impressive.
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Post by fuguestate on Aug 28, 2017 19:46:14 GMT
Does that mean the days of the manuscript paper are numbered?
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Post by Tim Marko on Aug 28, 2017 19:48:36 GMT
It's getting harder and harder to find good paper without having to order and wait. This is a great option and you can transfer the work into any other program for serious work.
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Post by fuguestate on Aug 28, 2017 19:59:04 GMT
I think the biggest advantage of the digital medium is its malleability and editability. With paper while you can change a note or phrase here and there, it quickly clutters up everything else, and inserting a new bar in the middle of something is basically impossible. Eventually you just have to resort to writing it all out all over again on a new sheet of paper. In software, all of this is a trivial operation done at a single click or tap.
And now with our portable devices, the reasons for bringing along pen and paper seem to diminish even more.
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Post by Bob Porter on Aug 29, 2017 1:01:02 GMT
With all due respect, I couldn't wait to leave any semblance of pen and paper behind. Except, of course, for virtual staff paper. I enter notes by mouse click. And, oh yes, on a big clunky desk top that I built for higher end software. Sure, I think of tunes all the time. but they are gone by the time I get to my computer. Guess they weren't worth remembering, then.
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Post by fuguestate on Aug 29, 2017 6:21:51 GMT
@bob: I often wished I had something to jot down ideas while I'm away from the keyboard. Sometimes the idea was actually very good, but since my mind only has limited capacity for short-term memory, and many other pressing things demand attention before I can get to the keyboard again, these ideas are often lost forever. Of course, where possible I do try to put more effort into remembering the idea, but that may not always be an option. There have been cases where I can only recall part of a larger motif that came to me, and no matter what I do to jog my memory only the first few notes remain with me, and the rest are forever gone.
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Post by Mike Hewer on Aug 29, 2017 8:23:58 GMT
Tim, Yep, I considered Surface but saw some terrible reviews and real life horror stories that it put me right off. Oh boy though, I drooled over Surface studio for months. I knew I needed screen real estate for large scores and also considered a Wacom 22" cintiq with touch and pen, but it was impractical as I wanted to be mobile enough to sit with the wife occassionally and not be stuck in my studio doing Sibelius grunt work. In the end I bought a HP Envy with touch and pen for its 15" screen and numeric keyboard, which works out better for me than the small surface 12" at around the same price. I had to research the pen functionality a lot but am happy to say that this set up (with the HP Microsoft pen) works beautifully and the increase in workflow on Sibelius has almost doubled in productivity with pen, touch and keyboard functionality all complimenting one another in an intuitive way. Staffpad is a joy isn't it? Teoh, Check out the staffpad sight and watch a few video demos , it really might be the future of manuscript!
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Post by Tim Marko on Aug 29, 2017 21:12:50 GMT
Yeah Mike, I do enjoy the ability to jot whenever. The nice thing is if the handwriting doesn't take, it still keeps your attempt. It also helps wean you away from having to have an instrument to develop an idea. You have to hear it first, but then you are able to check yourself. I couldn't remember the name, but Studio version looks incredible. I wonder how the engraving looks when finished though. I still finish in Finale for the final score.
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Post by king2b on Aug 31, 2017 16:38:55 GMT
Does anyone use sibelius here?
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Post by Bob Porter on Aug 31, 2017 17:06:31 GMT
Sibelius 7.5.1. I have used Sibelius since v 4.
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Post by fuguestate on Aug 31, 2017 17:11:42 GMT
I don't use Sibelius (nor Finale); I use Lilypond. But I'm also actually a member of the Sons of Sibelius forum. Just was never active there.
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Post by Mike Hewer on Aug 31, 2017 17:46:56 GMT
I use Sib8 with pen and touch as well as numeric keyboard - bloody marvellous. But I am not going to subscribe to Avid. Sib8 does everything I need from notation software.
@bob P,
Bob, do you know of a way of combining graphics in Sib and saving them as just one graphic?. For example, I would like to combine a small cue size bracket with a direction for divisi, or create a player specific direction like 2nd player only (a 2 with a small circle after it). I can do these things of course, but am looking to just save them in a combined state to cut down on keystrokes. I see that the menu under Z has blanks for user-defined graphics and was wondering if there was a way within the software as opposed to me creating them outside of it and importing them in.
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