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Post by Tim Marko on Dec 27, 2018 17:41:16 GMT
This is a current wip. I used the Hirajoshi scale as the basis and thought I was getting cute in creating modes to go along with it. Further research showed me that I had only recreated other eastern scales that already existed. (Oh well, I guess nothing is really new!) The block of the piece should put it at about 9 minutes when completed and this is the first part. From here I plan to transition to a faster and more rhythmical section while still exploring the various "modes" of the scale. Hoping to get some feedback on the piece so far before going to much further. Thanks. Tim Links to revision: Soundcloud: Pentatonic 2 Pentatonic 3 Pentatonic 4 |
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Post by Dave Dexter on Dec 28, 2018 16:11:22 GMT
Can you check the soundcloud link? It didn't work for me.
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Post by Tim Marko on Dec 28, 2018 16:25:29 GMT
Just added the actual url. See if that helps.
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Post by Dave Dexter on Dec 28, 2018 18:19:26 GMT
Afraid not, and going back to your soundcloud the most recent track is a year old so maybe it's a private piece you need to give us the private link to?
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Post by Tim Marko on Dec 28, 2018 18:25:57 GMT
That's what I did. Didn't realize the private link was unique. Hopefully it works now.
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Post by Dave Dexter on Dec 29, 2018 12:28:13 GMT
That works! As does the writing, which has some excellent moments, and from my novice perch the orchestration looks very solid (makes sense, given you know more about it than me). I'll return later to edit in some questions and possible issues but I didn't want to leave your piece all alone.
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Post by gx on Dec 29, 2018 14:21:22 GMT
I enjoyed this, Tim. There is a nice flow and dramatic arc. Thanks for posting.
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Post by Mike Hewer on Jan 22, 2019 10:56:29 GMT
Tim, this is great. I love the gravitas, to me it also feels like it is programmatic.
I like the control you are exerting on the notes too and you have found very expressive music. Make sure you keep us up to date with this as I'd love to hear what else you write.
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Post by Bob Porter on Jan 22, 2019 15:23:00 GMT
Very nice Tim. Can you tell us a bit about it?
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Post by driscollmusick on Jan 22, 2019 16:44:55 GMT
Tim, do you know the Holst Japanese suite? I posted it a while back. It also begins with solo bassoon, like your piece, and makes good use of the pentatonic scale.
Your piece is well-orchestrated (as usual) and I agree that there is a lot of interesting long-form potential here. I particularly like the impact of m. 16. I do think you could probably push yourself to do something a little more interesting with the 1st violins at A. To my ear, that repeated C is quite static (contrary to the "more motion" feeling you seem to be going for) and distracting from the wind melodies.
Notationally, I would recommend against use of the jazz font for anything orchestral like this. Also, I think your dynamics are far too small, especially since the p's and f's look quite similar. I would also omit the key signature for the clarinet part (this really isn't a piece in C major or A minor and as it is, you're canceling out the sharps throughout anyway).
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Post by Tim Marko on Jan 22, 2019 16:52:13 GMT
Thanks all. I just changed the links in the original post to update the work. I've made a few changes and also added about another minute. Would love to hear any feedback on the changes.
Mike, I've taken your idea of creating strong limits and working from within those. In this case, limiting everything to the 5 actual notes in the scale. As you have said many times, it actually has freed me to truly explore the possibilities.
Bob, the inspiration came during some down time while playing mahjong online. The endless music loop got into my brain.
This method was actually cited by someone on another forum, so not original. I started with the scale C D Eb G Ab C (hirajosi). The "modes" were derived by starting the scale on the next degree, (ie. D Eb G Ab C D) and transposing the intervals back to C as the starting note, resulting in C Db F Gb Bb C. I did this with each scale tone. (kinda Hansonesque don't ya think Mile?)
Each section as I shift the "mode", I restricted myself to only the 5 notes available.
Thanks for the interest.
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Post by Tim Marko on Jan 22, 2019 16:58:38 GMT
Hi John. Love the Holst!
Yeah, the Jazz font was just to have a change of pace as I write. I need to change it for others.
When I first used the pedal C, I really liked it. It's starting to grate on me, too, I just haven't figured out what to do with it yet. That'll probably get changed once the piece is finished and I go back through and make my edits.
Thanks for the imput.
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Post by driscollmusick on Jan 22, 2019 19:02:25 GMT
Hi John. Love the Holst! Yeah, the Jazz font was just to have a change of pace as I write. I need to change it for others. When I first used the pedal C, I really liked it. It's starting to grate on me, too, I just haven't figured out what to do with it yet. That'll probably get changed once the piece is finished and I go back through and make my edits. Thanks for the imput. I think even just alternating octaves or not every beat would give it a little more life. Pulsing fp tremolos also came to mind (maybe con sordino to alter the color?) |
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Post by Tim Marko on Jan 22, 2019 20:50:45 GMT
Just realized the link was to the old version. The links shown in the original post now, are for the revised version.
Sorry 'bout that!
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Post by driscollmusick on Jan 22, 2019 21:07:16 GMT
This is coming along very nicely!
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