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Post by king2b on Sept 26, 2017 9:19:49 GMT
Okay I know that you all mainly use DAW (is that the correct word) to create the fantastic music found here but is there anyone that can give guidance on just how to use one?
Along with where to start etc. I am just a notation user and have never used a DAW at all.
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Post by Dave Dexter on Sept 26, 2017 9:29:05 GMT
Hmm. Do you own one or have a particular one in mind?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2017 11:33:45 GMT
You know it's very difficult to find the information relevant for someone composing on a DAW. Most youtube videos are pitching towards people recording and mixing on it. The bit about entering the music you have in your head via midi notes isn't covered so much. Pretty well all DAWs have a piano roll window where vertical is left to right piano keys and horizontal left to right is time. That's all there is to it for starters.
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Post by king2b on Sept 26, 2017 12:34:15 GMT
Hmm. Do you own one or have a particular one in mind? One that is easier to work.
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Post by Dave Dexter on Sept 26, 2017 12:39:33 GMT
If you have a mac, Garageband is good. All the basics of piano roll and midi, pretty powerful and easy, but without all the deep-feature stuff of the pro DAWS. Or there's bound to be free versions of equivalent PC software online. Audacity has been around since I started recording guitar 15 years ago and I believe it supports midi now. The very fundamentals are the same across all of them, as Ray said.
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Post by BootHamilton on Sept 26, 2017 12:43:46 GMT
I'm a big REAPER fan. However, that being said, it is likwly not the easiest to find your way around-on. Very full-featured, an incredible value ($60 usd), and for me, I don't see where I'll ever outgrow it. But, yeah, I think any 'first DAW' experience will initially be a bit daunting. But if you stick with it, you'll find your way. You can check out the REAPER forum to get a bit of the feel of their most excellent 'community': REAPER Forum (and no, I do not work for REAPER).
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2017 13:02:34 GMT
Perhaps a thread or individual threads on this board showing some screen shots or even video of the various options there are. I'm talking about starting with the simplest operations like empty project window followed by populating it with some music. We don't want to get into DAW wars here. They all start out by doing the same things and only when getting much deeper in do we get to their +'s and -'s In Steinberg's range of products I think a composer wishing to begin their journey using a DAW would get on well with: www.steinberg.net/en/products/cubase/cubase_elements.htmlIt has a basic sample player and instruments included in the package to get you going. Other DAW's are available.
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Post by king2b on Sept 26, 2017 13:05:07 GMT
If you have a mac, Garageband is good. All the basics of piano roll and midi, pretty powerful and easy, but without all the deep-feature stuff of the pro DAWS. Or there's bound to be free versions of equivalent PC software online. Audacity has been around since I started recording guitar 15 years ago and I believe it supports midi now. The very fundamentals are the same across all of them, as Ray said. I have Garage Band.
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Post by king2b on Sept 26, 2017 13:06:05 GMT
Perhaps a thread or individual threads on this board showing some screen shots or even video of the various options there are. I'm talking about starting with the simplest operations like empty project window followed by populating it with some music. We don't want to get into DAW wars here. They all start out by doing the same things and only when getting much deeper in do we get to their +'s and -'s This sounds like a good way to start, at the beginning! Would any of you good people be up for walking an old man through the minefield?
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Post by Dave Dexter on Sept 26, 2017 13:58:20 GMT
I really wish I could but if you're using Garageband (which I'd recommend, it's forward-compatible with Logic so easy to move projects in the future) my version has been crashed for ages Perhaps a thread or individual threads on this board showing some screen shots or even video of the various options there are. I'm talking about starting with the simplest operations like empty project window followed by populating it with some music. We don't want to get into DAW wars here. They all start out by doing the same things and only when getting much deeper in do we get to their +'s and -'s This sounds like a good way to start, at the beginning! Would any of you good people be up for walking an old man through the minefield?
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Post by king2b on Sept 26, 2017 14:03:00 GMT
I have just been looking at a few video's and they seemed to be just concerned with using loops.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2017 14:46:49 GMT
I have just been looking at a few video's and they seemed to be just concerned with using loops. Therein lies the problem today. All the developers are targeting that market.
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Post by king2b on Sept 26, 2017 14:51:15 GMT
Thanks anyway. O by the way I have listened to a couple of tracks on your sound cloud account Ray, notation or DAW?
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Post by BootHamilton on Sept 26, 2017 15:09:28 GMT
BTW, you can download the full version of REAPER for free - no strings attached. They just ask that if you continue to use it beyond 30 (60? 90? ... 'can't remember) that you pay for it. Probably the fairest deal you're going to find.
I'd be willing to get you going on it, if you want.
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Post by fuguestate on Sept 26, 2017 16:14:05 GMT
So far, I've only used notation software. It better suits the way I work, though I understand I have lots to learn in terms of doing a decent production.
What I would really like, if such a thing even exists, is a DAW that I can programmatically control without having to click through hundreds of buttons. I don't mind having to specify verbose or even cryptic commands to get the effect I want, and I don't even care if there is no instant audio feedback (in fact, I prefer that). The most important thing is, I want to be able to give it a MIDI file, or whatever other format, doesn't have to be strictly MIDI, and then it goes and does its thing and gives me an audio file back. Pure and simple input/output. Any tweaks, after-effects, etc., should be specifiable in the input somehow.
Does such a thing even exist, or am I still dreaming?
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